"Shutting up UFO Debunkers" REVISED 9-4-13
Post by Steve Zalewski » Wed May 01, 2013 10:30 pm
May 1, 2013
In my forty years of researching the UFO phenomenon, I
have had the opportunity to have lunch and dinner with Dr. J. Allen
Hynek and conduct high level SCIENTIFIC UFO research and speak at
Cornell University to the Cornell University UFO Awareness Group, which
was part of Cornell University Space Science.
I titled this posting, "Shutting Up UFO Debunkers" and yes it can be done. How do you "shut up" UFO debunkers?
By doing research that is extremely, extremely, extremely, extremely, extremely, difficult for them to refute.
UFO data DOES exist, however it is NOT widely distributed like the
crackpot/cultist materials are, and a great deal of the data is in
obscure peer reviewed scholarly journals in the fields of aeronautics,
astronautics, astronomy, biology, chemistry, folklore, geology, history,
physics psychology, psychiatry, optics, meteorology, military
science, sociology, theology etc.
Before you begin gathering data make sure that you ARE very well informed about UFOs and UFO history.
The data is out there in many academic libraries, but you must LOOK FOR IT, in order to find it.
you were doing research say on the Apollo 11 moon landing mission would
you rely on crackpots? Of course not, SO WHY RELY ON CRACKPOTS AND
CULTISTS FOR YOUR UFO INFORMATION? Crackpots and cultists DO NOT
provide reputable information on UFOs, the primary objective of
crackpots and cultists is making money off the UFO phenomenon. By the
way, I DO NOT profit in any way on my UFO research activities.
database should be composed up of books by scientists, books and
articles from credible UFO researchers, and scholars, government
documents that have been verified as being authentic, scientific field
studies, peer reviewed papers from scholarly journals, and AV materials
of a credible nature. A number of Masters degree and Ph.D degree UFO
thesis papers have been written, you should consider them as a data
source as well.
In the database that I set up by being extremely careful I was able to keep out nearly 98-99% of the crackpot/cultist junk.
database should also be reviewed by scientists and academics who have
published serious UFO literature, and by credible UFO researchers. Try
to get some highly prestigious scientists with Ph.D credentials as some
of your reviewers.
We also asked the skeptics to contribute
materials, the skeptics would NOT donate anything. Oberg and Sheaffer
did NOT respond, Klass sent a letter
stating that he would not contribute anything and that his materials
are at the American Philosophical Society in Philadelphia, PA. Many
"skeptics" explain UFOs away without even taking the time to interview
witnesses, or do case investigations. Yet these are the same people who
rant and rave about how science is SUPPOSED to operate. They don't
practice what they preach. Many debunkers, pseudoskeptics, and skeptics
have developed an attitude that they are NEVER wrong about ANYTHING.
"There seems to be a category of persons,
including some attracted to science, who conclude that they know what
is good for the rest of us. They adopt a somewhat authoritarian and
somewhat paranoid "thought police" mode. They become convinced that
certain irrational concepts do grievous harm to individuals and may even
threaten the rational basis of modern western civilization". As
mentioned, Irving Langmuir was an earlier version of this class of
individuals. (Today we have a whole organization of them, the Committee For Skeptical Inquiry, formerly the Committee for Scientific Investigation of the Claims of the Paranormal, CSICOP, proudly reveling in the COP status of their mental policing.)
Quoted from UFOs and Government, The Colorado Project, Chapter 14, page 321.
of the reasons that the UFO subject is not taken seriously by most
scientists is because of ignorance on the parts of the academic and
Many scientists base their negative reactions on UFOs due to their lack of knowledge about the subject matter at hand.
reason is because new age kooks and cultists, and other crackpots have
damaged this subject severely. In addition many members of the public shy away from this subject due the "bad press" associated with it.
The third reason is due to all the disinformation that is spread around by debunkers and pseudoskeptics, and by local Committee For Skeptical Inquiry debunking chapters
which are "affiliated" with the national Committee For Skeptical
Inquiry located in Amherst, NY, (a suburb of Buffalo, NY) or by other
For those who don't know CSI
(Committee for Skeptical Inquiry) is the new name for The Committee for
the Scientific Investigations of Claims of the Paranormal, which was formerly known as CSICOP. By the way there is a CSI chapter in Syracuse.
Unfortunately, ignorance runs rampant in the UFO research field.
Of course the U.S. Government and various intelligence agencies have also spread around disinformation to the public,
press, and scientific community, and to UFO researchers while studying
the UFO phenomenon in highly classified projects away from the press, public, and prying eyes.
though Project Bluebook closed on December 17, 1969, due to the fact
that the U.S. Government considers UFOs to be a MAJOR national security
matter I can assure you that they are STILL doing research into the UFO
However all is not lost. Where do you get your UFO information from? Is it from Steven Greer's UFO cult, CSETI, or do you go to the J. Allen Hynek Center For UFO Studies website, http://www.cufos.org?
Do you get your information on UFOs from The Journal of UFO Studies, or the Journal of Scientific Exploration http://www.scientificexploration.org or from cultist sources like Billy Meier, George Adamski, or from other charlatans who have damaged this subject so badly.
people mix up scientific UFO data with cultist junk and reject
scientific data and fail to "weed out" cultist junk from scientific data
sources. If you go to the bibliography section, of Jacobs UFO book
referenced below or look at the footnotes at the end of the chapters in Hynek's referenced book, you will find many credible journal sources that you can use in your data gathering.
Due to their
lack of knowledge, many people fail to distinguish scientific data from
the low quality junk produced by cultists and crackpots.
also falsely assume that ALL UFO literature is junk, and they put
scientific data in the same category as crackpot/cultist materials, and
dismiss ALL of it.
You must have outstanding critical thinking
skills to differentiate between scientific data, and cultist materials
and disinformation produced by CSI debunkers, pseudoskeptics, and by
CSI's local chapters, and by disinformation produced by government agencies.
UFO subject is one of the few subjects where many people consider
themselves to be experts, but they have NOT done ANY research in this
field. In addition, many people view cultists and crackpots to be
"experts" in this field but they are NOT experts either.)
debunkers and "pseudoskeptics" have become "self appointed experts" in
this field but their knowledge of UFOs is extremely poor to non existent
at best. The debunkers and pseudoskeptics are NOT experts in this
See "The Debunkers" by Dr. David Jacobs for a
comprehensive analysis about how pseudoskeptics and CSI (Formerly
CSICOP) operate. The paper is superb and a real eye opener.
I will recommend books that you can read which are not hard reading at all but are reputable.
The UFO Experience A Scientific Inquiry by Dr. J. Allen Hynek. For
those who don't know Hynek was the official astronomer for the Air
Force's UFO Projects Sign, Grudge, and Bluebook. Hynek also founded the
Center For UFO Studies, and was a Professor of Astronomy at
Northwestern University. Dr. Hynek passed away on April 27, 1986 in
Scottsdale, Arizona. I knew Hynek personally.
Hynek's book above
is superb and the book describes the various characteristics of UFO
reports, the problems with The University of Colorado at Boulder UFO
research project headed by Dr. Edward Condon, and the poor quality
investigations and research done during the U.S. Air Force's UFO
Projects, Sign, Grudge, and Bluebook.
2. The UFO Controversy In
America by Dr. David Jacobs. Published by Indiana University Press. Dr.
Jacobs retired from Temple University a few years ago, he is a UFO
historian, and conducts research into the abduction phenomenon. The UFO
Controversy In America, is an outstanding scholarly work in the form of a
doctorate thesis in UFO history and I highly recommend this book. I
know the author personally.
If you go the website for the J.
Allen Hynek Center For UFO Studies and look on the site there are
recommended books to read that are written by reputable UFO researchers
and will give you worthwhile information. There also is a skeptics
section on the Center's website.
Good Luck to you in your SCIENTIFIC data gathering efforts.
Zalewski is an amateur astronomer, UFO researcher, and amateur
photographer from Syracuse, NY. He received his Associates Degree in
Electronic Media Studies, from Onondaga Community College in Syracuse,
NY and his Bachelors Degree from the University of Denver, in Mass
Steve has been involved in the UFO research field since 1973, and knows some of the top people in this field in the world.
is the founder of a UFO collection at Onondaga Community College in
Syracuse, NY which was reviewed by Dr. W. Reid Thompson of Cornell
University Space Science. Note, Steve is NOT employed by Onondaga
Dr. W. Reid Thompson wrote two letters on
Cornell University Center For Radio Physics and Space Research
letterhead to Onondaga Community College's library in 1993 stating that
we are very impressed that the collection was "critically assembled".
Dr. W. Reid Thompson was also Dr. Carl Sagan's assistant. Dr.
Thompson's two letters on Cornell letterhead along with the envelopes,
and his prestige make this project nearly 99.9% refute proof. Now, you
can see why UFO research SHOULD be done like this.
Dr. W. Reid
Thompson was also an astronomer at Cornell, his professional research
work centered around studying the chemical makeup of Titan (a satellite
of Saturn) and Reid was a member of the Galileo and Voyager 2 imaging
teams, his professional research associations were with the American
Astronomical Society, the American Geophysical Union Division for
Planetary Sciences, International Society for the Study of the Origin of
Life, and Sigma Xi. Reid also worked in Cornell's Space Science Lab,
and the Laboratory for Planetary Sciences, and the Center For Radio
Physics and Space Research at Cornell. Sadly, Reid came down with lung
cancer and passed away on April 22, 1996 in Ithaca, NY.
reference for Reid's scientific and professional accomplishments was
Reid's obituary notice published in the Ithaca Journal, April 24, 1996
Reid also stated that there is abundant evidence that
some real physical phenomenon is behind the significant fraction of
investigated UFO sightings that remain unexplained, despite good
documentation from reliable witnesses (on the order of 20% of non
Reid asked Steve to speak to the Cornell University UFO Awareness Group which Steve did do on June 5, 1993.
W. Reid Thompson has Steve's greatest respect for having courage and
guts to investigate the UFO phenomenon in a high level scientific
Data from the collection was sent up by Reid, to Dr.
Carl Sagan for his examination. I miss Reid greatly. Reid was a
fantastic astronomer for his fearless courage to be deeply interested in
the UFO phenomenon, despite the stigma associated with studying the
Reid was very curious about UFOs and he was a
true scientist for not backing down in studying UFOs despite the
ridicule factor associated with UFO research. Serious UFO researchers
owe Reid a great deal of respect for trying to study this subject
This collection is the only IVY League endorsed UFO Collection in the world.
due to the ignorance of the some people in the scientific community,
the college's library staff, and debunkers, some of the material in the
collection may have been thrown out from the collection.
to chronic medical problems I have had to completely cut back on data
gathering on this project but I hope that my comments have encouraged
you to use critical thinking skills when you do your UFO research and
to make sure that your research rises up to Ivy League Standards and
yes, some of the debunkers were very, very, upset locally that I made
this project extremely, extremely, difficult for them to refute.
This is the way that UFO research should be done.
raised the UFO field up to Ivy League Standards, if I can do it you can
do it. Having extremely, extremely, high standards raises the
credibility of UFO research to the public and scientific community, and
makes the debunkers job much, much, more difficult for them to do.
would like to thank the serious UFO researchers, scientists, and the
former members of Cornell University's UFO Awareness Group for being so
courageous in studying the UFO phenomenon, and for their support and
assistance in my research and for their support of the database that I
created at Onondaga Community College, in Syracuse, NY. Thank You
If you are a serious UFO researcher, please give me your
comments and suggestions and feedback to this posting. I really want to
encourage the usage of critical thinking skills and try to get the UFO
field cleaned up so more scientists will be more likely to conduct
research in this area. Thanks again for your comments and I look
forward to hearing from you. Please put any comments to me in the post a
reply section, or if SCEPCOP has a way to communicate with members, via
email privately feel free to drop me a line. Thank You.