Debunkers have used the same terms big tobacco and big oil use to deflect logical thinking,,, which is that the sun in the sky can't be held nor the stars or moon yet they are accepted as real objects but when a phenomenon such as 2 mile long black discs or giant craft that resemble shelled walnuts bigger than 2 aircraft carriers is seen its called a slow moving meteor or swamp gas or a falling satellite even when reported by expert witnesses with both airborne radar and ground radar verification it blown off as hallucination.
